Reaching for the stars is great, but, sometimes you have to understand when you’re setting your sights too high and keep more of an open mind about who could be right for you. 4. There Can Currently why online dating sucks. Whereas tons of people create profiles on online dating sites, meeting up with potential dates in real life is not an easy task due to fear of the September 15, upvotes. /r/ TheRedPill. TL;DR- This is a concise and heavily updated guide on how to approach dating sites. Most of this guide has been altered based upon which These are 5 main reasons why online dating sucked for me and my personal insights on how to make it suck less. Contents Show. 1. You are not getting any matches. At the beginning, I Women get flooded with messages from average losers, and he didn't want to be lumped into the sea of morass, the beta bitches who desperately need online dating. Still, Chad is so busy ... read more
Oh yeah lifting is great. But it doesn't raise test significantly. Blast and cruise, baby, blast and cruise. Or you could be a badass without drugs. You only have to remember to start by being less mentally weak.
Nothing wrong with infertility if you arent starting a family. Chicks dig bald. And there are tests for cancer. If you use too much incorrectly. Don't fear monger on steroids. Used correctly they are actually very safe. It just comes off as weak to me. You need a shortcut because of lack of willpower? With a high-fat diet and lifting heavy nearly any man can achieve high test especially when excess body fat burns off. While true studies have proven test levels in men have been dropping every generation by a lot.
Some may want to return to what was considered normal levels. That's true, and due mostly to the fact that there are so many xenoestrogens in the environment. These are easy to avoid for the most part.
Don't drink bottled plastic drinks. Don't store food in plastic. Don't buy processed food. Rather than take the quick approach, I think it's more respectable to educate yourself and get high-test the natural way. Show me a study showing the average guy's T levels "plummet" in the 30s.
Do they decline? Can you have high-T in your 30's if you lift heavy most days of the week? For many its even worse than that. Still no big deal? Theres more important things impacting T levels than lifting heavy. Unless you are in your early 20's I dont care what you do, I bet my T levels smoke yours.
I have the test numbers to prove it. B The average man in his 30s doesn't lift weights, eats processed food, doesn't sleep enough, and doesn't meditate.
I would expect a similar study amongst weight-lifting individuals to have an even smaller drop. That's nothing, and that's just one factor involved with testosterone production. I hate excuses if you couldn't tell. So much this. These fucking guys who are like LOL, JUST INJECT STEROIDS, BLAST AND CRUISE BABY are basically gambling their long term health for years of alpha. Don't get me wrong, it'll work because females are retarded and obey little other than tingles, but I personally would rather not die of a heart attack at There are better ways to get pussy.
Every time I see some hypervascular steroid freak walking down the street I just think "dead man walking. I agree man. When you look at all the steroid users who were jacked and raking in pussy in their 20's and 30's, by the time they are in their 40s they are forced on TRT because their balls cant make natural testosterone and by the time they are in their 50's and 60's they are getting weird cancers and joint replacements and other health issues.
Sure, some people are able to do testosterone moderately and get off mostly scott free, but its a risk, one that I'm not willing to take. Have you ever heard of the turtle vs the hare? The turtle wins in the end. Here's the thing bro. Hypervascular steroid freaks are not the only ones taking roids, they're just the ones doing it badly. Juice has come a long way:. You do realize that you can be an underwear model pretty boy and live as long as if you didn't take anything if you just stick to low doses and mild compounds, right?
If you say so. Even if you are are taking roids perfectly you are still playing dangerous games with your organ health, especially your heart. You might not die at 25 like the Zyzz, but you're probably decreasing your lifespan and future quality of life. Obviously, your mileage may vary - genetics is a magical thing, and it's possible that you might suffer no ill effects at all. That's not a trade I'm prepared to make for pussy, given how easy it is to get it without resorting to risking my future vitality for it.
Note that I'm not being moralistic about this. I'm natty, but I probably could have made the same lifting progress in 6 months that I made in 2 or 3 years if I had used gear instead; in fact, I probably would have done it if the health risks weren't there. However, the health risks are there and it's disingenuous of you to pretend they aren't. Good post. Just because some people can do testosterone or steroids without long term ill effects doesnt mean everyone can.
There are people who smoked for 60 years and live to That doesnt mean its safe. Its a risk, and there are some serious consequences for those who arent lucky. Nope, I get what you're trying to say, but you know nothing about steroids at all.
Testosterone is as safe as weed. It's only when you take the highly liver toxic stuff and combine them with other drugs do you run into issues.
You're an idiot. Zyzz died because of cocaine and DNP abuse. Frank Zane is old, still ripped, and healthy, and he used way more steroid. No, you're the idiot. The fact that you're taking single examples and acting like it's proof positive that you're not going to die young because of your steroid abuse is dumb.
FWIW Zyzz was on gear, DNP was not the only shit he was on. All the Frank Zane example proves is that Frank Zane got lucky and had genetics that could survive his dipshit behavior. A lot of rockstars do enough cocaine to kill a mule at every show and manage to live a long time after that - do you think that's good evidence that doing shitloads of coke is a good decision?
Regardless, you're on gear so that says pretty much all I need to know about your future time orientation. Best of luck. I'm not on gear now. I've been off for a few months now. I still look great and dick never stopped working. Blood tests came back perfectly healthy. This is everything I ever wanted to say on the subjected but never got my ass in gear to do.
I agree with sidebar worthy. That would not only be super fun but super useful If it is of this zriting's quality I will pay for it. let's face it, 2 months from now this will be burried under new posts and a lot of people will never read it.
You have to find a way to make lcearly appear to everybody. I enjoyed reading what he wrote. He doesn't need to write like Shakespeare to be a good writer, you know.
Anybody can be a fucking writer if they put the work in. This was a good refresher. I use online dating time to time because it's just so convenient. I can game women while holding my cell and taking a shit. Anyway, I've been out of the country for two weeks on business and noticed I was slipping into beta bitch with these foreign chicks while using tinder, okc, etc.
This post was the slap-in-the-face I needed. Thanks, man. You're welcome brother. Remember that you have an advantage - you're leaving in two weeks. Take the gloves off and fight, since you'll be a ghost in short order. I really like the way you talk. You have a way with words. Accept this as a compliment and encouragement to write more.
Funny thing with online dating, it polarizes the effects of female hypergamy. Way better results with dealing with chicks in person. Most of the girls I've fucked were girls I messaged a handful of times off of PoF and OKCupid.
Maintain a sexual, no-bullshit frame, get them to come over. It's like ordering pussy off of Amazon. Was just explaining to my brother the other day about how he can save money, time and effort by getting on a dating site and "ordering pizza". After I installed tinder I had to stop swiping right as I got over a chicks in two days and none were saying no to wanting to meet up.
Really felt like a shopping list. This is why online dating is usually online silence. That is not to say you shouldn't have an online dating profile - why not? The Chad method is really the only way to piece together a profile, but, you are more or less positioned like a spider waiting for flies.
And if you want quality flies, you may have to wait a loooooong while - results may vary. Ill try initiate sexual conversation with a Tinder girl i have on snapchat and she blatantly rejects the approach, only to write to me the next day literally saying she just wants alcohol and sex. Then 5 messages later they've forgotten how angry they were, but they still remember the tingles.
If you're past the age of abs yes, it will eventually happen , having a strong statement about your intellectual interests, great career and outside pursuits make sure these actually happen outside - sailing, rock climbing, mountaineering etc. will do pretty well, though you should keep lifting so that when you do meet she'll know you for the beast you've always been.
Works like magic though you have to sift through a lot of serious nut cases, ticking clocks and the like unless you're still targeting teenagers which you shouldn't they're barely litter trained. Old enough to know what they're doing, to be past the BS and ready to go.
Worked at 21 and still works at can confirm. I think it's much that proper abs are so uncommon, so when women see it they think they have found a unicorn or something.
Yeah, but you have to have some beef. Abs on a super skinny dude are like big tits on a land whale. The juxtaposition of contrasting factors creates an instant mental orgasm for their hamster brain. My highest responses from women were when I messaged them simply saying "Fuck you" without any explanation. When they angrily responded asking why I was being rude, I just segued into something else.
Oddly enough, they soon forgot I even said fuck you. So basically: Fuck you -No, FUCK YOU! Nice, now you understand me! Let's fuck each other! Lol I do this when bored and am texting girls and really anyone outside business,fun times will be had tbh. yeah, I just started asking what kind of movies she likes or something.
I didn't really find her that attractive so I never met up with her and our conversation fizzled out. I just wanted to see if saying "fuck you" would get her attention and it did. I didn't even have a pic up at the time, I think. It should be noted that this effect decreases with age according to OkCupid data , though:. My guess is because women filter out men younger than them. I bet if you look good and hit on 22yos youll get that 1.
Alternatively you can also get a pussy in the shot. Not the pussy, a pussy! Pics with animals get their attention as much as shirtless pics. Now I wonder what happens with guys that are shirtless holding an animal?
Maybe someone here can test that out lol. Ok Cupid has an excellent analysis area on their site. Really helped me hone my tactics prior to TRP. I don't remember how you get to it, just look around on their main page you probably have to have an account for a tab like charts or analysis or something along those lines. Their statisticians are A-level.
Great stuff there. Not just for game but for general human insight. Girls don't like shirtless pics of dudes with dad bods, I guess. They just don't complete their sentences. Well they probably think of shirtless guys that act all "pls love me" but since they think with emotions they continue to say they all shirtless guys and not just fake alphas.
Women never stop dissimulating. All the time. Almost non-stop. It is instinct as much as it is irrational with them.
Assuming the opposite of whatever she says to be true is generally a good rule of thumb. Reminds me of the fairly odd parents episode where the subject of the episode was women mean the complete opposite of what they say. I know it's kiddish but cartoons that have adult themes you can't understand as a kid but still enjoy even as an adult are cool. Sister of my GF was on tinder, I watched her.
She complained about some shirtless guy, added him or whatever they do on tinder. Then went on to rant against shirtless ab picks, she also continued to swipe everyone who didn't have an shirtless abs pic. It's a barrier, but every edge puts you slightly above the rest of the men.
Muscles are definitely a leg up. Have to isolate. Of course I do, I keep dollar bills stacked high beta provider I can focus on my education without debt and I know you'll think it's lame qualification event but I actually really get on with my family qualification event , they're always there for me girls rank emotional connections as v important. I chat with my mom and she likes meeting all my friends what Abundance mentality and I drink beer and hunt with dad doing something physical demonstrates value.
My life is great right now. Pressure flip. No, it's paraphrased from a 24 year old guy at a party I was hosting, she thought it was something because he took her home So in light of what I have seen work, what's your suggestion on "living with mom" if the topic comes up?
I would frame it as my mother is living with me and not the other way around. This doesn't really work if the father is in the picture but I guess you could still go for it. To be honest, its not what you say but how you say it. If you come off as confident, and assertive then you can pull it off.
It's still hard to make living with your parents sexy though, the best you can do is make them forget about it because of your other positives. You flatter me. Internet dating and its precursor phone dating have mostly been my thing for the last 2 or 3 decades. It has worked for me far better than trying to chat up a skank at a bar or night club. My coworkers can't believe the shit I say to women and how I get away with it. I always tell them, "it's not what you say but how you say it.
You can really get away with anything when you don't give a shit about how they feel, think or what they have to say. It certainly helps with internet game, if you have the right attitude. Posting dick pics and saying "wassup? talked about farming and used the term arable this chick got confused and asked what it meant.
I say plowing sand and looked her in the eyes she immediately start starring at me ignoring her buddy and next day we were fucking behind a Jamba juice.
The more intelligent you are as a male, the less likely you are to get laid, according to a few scientific studies. Well the higher your IQ is the more likely it is that you're socially retarded. Socially retarded people don't get laid much. There's also a lot of MGTOW in very inteligent people. Tesla is a great example. Bitch I don't have time for your nonsense I gotta go make electricity fly through the air.
That has nothing to do with really with the intelligence, per se, and all to do with the dude who is intelligent. Most "intelligent" guys are fucking retards socially. They are the dudes that orbit women, major in something STEM, and then marry up the sagging woman at 30 years old.
If someone has a good background in social interaction, physical fitness, education, and reading then that "intelligent" person should have no problem getting laid.
They know when to argue the virtues of Roman Stoicism and when to talk about random bull shit with their male friends and females. The other guy is more concerned on appearing outwardly intelligent and comes off socially awkward and uncomfortable in certain social situations IE.
all social situations with people he is unfamiliar with. I think there is good evidence that the more intelligent you are, the fewer sex partners you will have. It becomes a quality vs quantity issue. But all things being equal, being smart can only improve your odds of getting laid. The only way it would work out, is if you were at a Mensa luncheon, but do you really want a Mensa chick?
Once you get further in life provided you don't self-employ you will run into situations where you are necessitated to take a proper IQ-test accompanied with discussion with a professional who then gives your profile to the hiring party. Mistakes in high-level professional settings are very, very expensive, so it is wise to take certain precautions with your hires to be sure that they fit your culture. Almost any standardized test is basically an IQ test: SAT, LSAT, GRE and Canadian public service exams are examples.
I think there are laws in place to ban the use of IQ tests for employment hiring despite their efficacy. The issue is totally racial. Just take a test. You don't have to accept the MENSA invitation.
I denied and they didn't bother me. Well online IQ tests are different from a real, professionally administered IQ test. I took one online and I got but I know damn well it isn't even close to that. The most common tests can't deal well with IQs much over or so. I generally clock in at about and I push the envelope on tests of general application. If you are really over then you would have to have a specialist test you. Realistically, anything over is gravy.
All of the greatest political, business and military leaders in history were all ish. Anything higher works for STEM but doesn't help with the practical application of that knowledge.
I started internet dating in I started phone dating around , so 23 years ago. At the time, my buddies thought I was nuts and that only ugly fat women would use phone dating.
Then I scored my first notch on the system and made off with a copy of her head shot: she was a fashion model, HB9, tall, slim, brunette. By the end of the day all of them had signed up.
My best friend met a personal trainer - 5'10" black amazon - and was with her for the next 12 years. But actually going back 30 years I was in high school and had just unplugged.
I was like a dog chasing cars because I really didn't know what to do once I caught them. Could you possibly post some of the chatlogs you have? Of course, block out any names and pictures so as to not reveal identities. Women are hilarious. He's writing from the idealized perspective of Chad Thundercock, the ideal alpha, probably not from any personal experience.
So this whole thread is just fantasy? This is pointless without hard evidence. I thought trp was all about reality, not what you would like reality to be. The truth is girls will routinely ignore the wittiest low SMV men, but respond much more positively to high SMV even if it is something as silly as a picture of their abs. This is goddamn beautiful. There was a post a long time ago about flipping the script on feminist bullshit for some great Red Pill truths, and it was a lot like this particular line.
I still remember reading "A man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle," and thinking of all the shit my friends put up with, how much respect we lose for men we call "pussy whipped" and how much we respected, in contrast, the "assholes" who could get pussy without putting up with shit. Yes I agree but can you end up putting too much into it and end up seeming like an arrogant over confident douche or is that the point?
I dislike this sort of behavior, sure you will get a couple of sluts, but its much better to at least try to not trigger ALD, but still be Chad. This was a good read. This was a little out there, "Do me a favor, and don't write back unless you're ready to call me daddy. But this, this is solid grade platinum, "Are you tied up tonight?
If not, there's something I want to tie you up with. If you guys have not dabbled in a little BDSM, well, you need to remedy that, the rewards are glorious. yeah, ive gotten a whole heap of girls since i started fishing with bdsm lines obviously you actually need to be into it as youll be racking up play dates, currently have 3 which can be tiring. ive given them the whole, im single and not looking for anything line first, and dont need to divulge what i get up to.
whats great, is they are all stunning, and i dont actually like any of them haha.. i used to be full steam ahead back in the day, now i never message anyone first unless im really wanting to cum, then ill throw out a domineering message which will always get me a.
It's not really about being called daddy, it's the act of showing dominance for her to submit to you. You could have her call you "boo boo kitty fuck" and she'll do it if she's attracted to you. That is one that legitimately falls into the "creepy" zone for some. Personally, I don't like it. But to each their own, whatever gets you off and gets them off as well. Just relating my experiences. Then I realized my ex comes off as a total good girl to this day.
Those beta orbiters she'll always have are clueless, much I like was when we first met. I had an ex who appeared like the good girl stereotype. Of course, she changed when it came to social settings and sexual.
For some reason most of my memories of her revolve around her begging for anal; not even bull shitting. After always seeing that anal trope about how women only do it very rarely under certain circumstances I couldn't help but laugh when my ex would continuously beg for it.
I don't have a cell phone. Any way to use these on a Mac? I hate Tinder's swiping BS, takes too much time I should clarify I live in Philippines, and I am not a native, so I am already on GOD Mode here. But here are the apps you can try. I use Android, it's ridiculous for me since my pickup line is, hey you got viber or skype, gimme the number, I get the number on first reply. IMO, it's not winners or losers. It's untamed or tamed. Fun or unfun. Girls get turned off by tamed dudes.
It's boring. I was at an event tonight, hitting on a girl who is dating a "safe" guy. He was standing right there while I gamed her. You could see the difference in reactions when I was speaking to her, versus her date speaking to her. Go to the local fabric store and get a bunch of "tieback cord" or " twist cord " - not only will you have it tonight, every girl in the store that is, everyone there will be wondering what you'll be doing with it.
Smile knowingly - or get their numbers. Double Bonus: Be sure you get paraffin candles rather than beeswax, so the hot wax will sting rather than really burn.
Casually point out the difference if she seems nervous about it - she'll wonder how you know, even if you're faking it. The concept of alpha vs beta is that the alphas and the winners are always the guys who are extremely masculine, to a fault. Now I don't think it means that or even should be that way. kinda funny, but seriously? If you want to have sex with the horseshit quality that hangs out on POF, it's doubtful you value yourself very highly. Doubtful the shirtless mirror pics get many girls wet, except maybe the totally vapid, STD-ridden, tatted up nightmares.
Let's all wait for the one to dedicate ourselves to. Hooray self respect! Hooray societal approval!! Banging POF whores and waiting for "the one" are not exactly the only 2 choices here.
Thanks, POF must be more regional than I thought, or nobody here is very discerning when it comes to women, as long as they are willing to have sex with them. POF in my down is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. OP didn't say he was looking for unicorns. If you think there is a dedicated online site where NAWALT, or "higher quality", please inform me.
If you are doubting that sending a pic of your body will excite a female, you need to work on your body more.
Guess you haven't explored the various dating sites. Pretty big differences in quality from POF to OKC to Tinder. But this varies by region, in my region POF is utter crap. You NEED pics to show off your body if you're in shape , but the mirror with iphone shirtless is overdone and pretty cheesy. Oddly enough, the first OKC date I ever went on was after I said "fuck it" and threw up one picture of my abs, to see what would happen.
Didn't get that lay, was in way over my head disbelief that it was happening. Online dating forever changed. Asian girls are the easiest online if you're white, so that's not saying it was the abs. Tall chicks don't get hit on as much IRL so they are more likely to do online dating. You've seen studies on this? Have you looked at mens profiles? Most guys have pics like this, are most guys successful online? Of course anything overdone doesn't work. Actually that's a good analogy. Junk mail gets the attention of about.
Yes you can throw up just about any picture and get that kind of attention on a dating site. I suggest you check out mens' profiles, you will see that most are putting up the iphone in mirror pics you're trying to say that ALL these guys are having success online? No chance, most are floundering, the key to online dating is originality. Can confirm it works. I take them every day, and then when I really want to fly like the guy in limitless, I add phenibut.
Be careful with Phenibut - not more than 2x a week. Except for PSTDYL, I buy the power in bulk from BeyondACentury. Increased focus and determination are the magic effects. When adding Phenibut, you add the "totally don't give a shit" attitude so many people crave. Hey Remy, recent TRPer looking to go monk mode for the summer.
Is it worth investing in these supplements? Where would I start? They seem to be worth taking but I'm not sure what to even take or where to begin with something like this.
Any info or insight would be much appreciated. If you are a brokecollegekidd, skip the Phosphatidyl-Serine it's the most expensive.
Get the rest from Beyond A Century google it , buy them in powder form and then buy a pill capper to make your own pills. This is the most economical way. Unfortunately, I can't do it until late July, because I left the powders in Florida when I came back up to NYC. I haven't experienced any noticeable side effects; but, I have a relatively strong tolerance for negative effects from my continual experiments.
I might just be overlooking them. Phenibut is the only one I really worry about. My first wife did PhD-level research on the rest, and though she's an ex, I trust her scientific opinion.
But, I definitely FEEL it if I haven't had my Phosphatidyl-Serine in a few days. Not enough to make me a fiend, but I notice the difference - sort of like going cold turkey on caffeine. Stop pushing Phenibut on here, its becoming a trend. I cringe whenever I see it from what I've been through. College kids are easily influenced and Phenibut is dangerous.
Ive seen you personally advocate taking Phenibut when "going out" and that is the most dangerous time. Do not mix with alcohol. you can't have fun without taking some risks. If you can't manage your risks, then it's your own fault and you deserve to be weeded out of the gene pool.
Yes we should openly promote the use of harmful drugs and social crutches on here, then tell those warning others of their harmful behavior that they deserve to die. I was reading a thread on phenibut on asktrp where someone was asking how something that's not a drug can be so effective. This is a place to share wisdom. I need to read more of this. I used to online dating for 2 years, I deleted all my profiles once I found out about redpill - couse fuck it, Im not going to be the guy who is messeging girls all over the place and give them that feeling of being desired without giving anything in return.
How do you naturally become alpha in talk and actions? I keep going back to my beta thinking every now and then, gets me frustrated. Anything else is a waste of time, and if they don't want to come out and play I swift-sword them out of my life.
Is that only in case of Girls or overall tho? I feel if I think only about myself Ill become the last person anyone wants to hang out with. I dont want to be anti social. You can be a kind person and still be Chad. I don't get it, is this a made up story? TRP isn't really the place for you to practice your erotic fiction writing.
There is always a good percentage of butthurt on here by guys not getting laid. Good on you man and keep up the writing. Bro, there is a lot of fan fiction going on on TRP lately, and I am not afraid to call bullshit. But this, this is legit. You can eat tacos, just need to do it right after you press some plates like a maniac. My body doesn't allow for that anymore.
Did at one time. In high school I maintained an 8-pack and ate like shit. Now I eat clean almost every day and it's starting to look really nice down there. I miss the old days of not having to worry, but the way I look at it, keeping track of my diet is just one more way to keep my self-discipline strong. Post-workout insulin spikes with high-GI junk food is the absolute best way to ramp up your metabolism for the next day, and promote healthy growth hormone release which will make you younger every day.
This sounds like some straight up bro-science here. How young are you? Junk is junk, post-workout or not. One thing I have not considered until now is mixing one TWO?
of those bitches in with my post-workout ON protein shake with a little ice, coconut milk and a banana. I suddenly feel like my life is about to change. By accident applies to this as well. It just happened. You are born with the vast majority of your personality. Very little is learned.
Genetics are extremely important in shaping personality and behavior. All of those downvotes on your comment make me wonder how "redpilled" this place really is. Has no one heard of twin studies?
Yeah, I've been wondering about the downvotes when nothing I wrote should have been particularly controversial. The fact that you're born with personality traits is easy to see among young children who can have very different personalities even when growing up in the same environment.
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Chad was not impressed with online dating. Looking through the profiles on Plenty of Sluts Fish, he saw the typical bullshit women spew out of their cake holes: Don't be a jerk. No shirtless mirror selfies. Be a gentleman. Don't message me about sex! Do me a favor, and don't write back unless you're ready to call me daddy. The next morning, 10 women had responded. Most wrote back the typical bullshit: How dare you! That's no way to write to a woman. I'm not interested only in sex She hesitated writing back for a few minutes.
Then she wrote "We'll see We will definitely see, Cathy. Count on it. horrorfuxx 6 years ago. sadraddude 7 years ago. You got one girl to say maybe!? You really are a pussy slayer.
Rufio 7 years ago. I used these exact lines to 10 different prospects, got 4 of them intrigued. RemyPrice 7 years ago. Sorry I'm looking for fucks to actually give. Tagged as "Don't Ever Help This Guy. So little jimmies, so much rustlin. I help men who want to help themselves. Not desperate guys who want a magic pill to solve all their problems. madscientist 7 years ago. People are full of bullshit and I have a low tolerance for it.
Imagine if a non-scientist told you they needed a PCR done, and wanted it back within an hour. Also, in my last group training I was accused by a participant of being dismissive. So he accused me of being a jerk who dismisses people without listening. reiduh 7 years ago. Ohhhh, "little Miss Cathies" of this world We'll see VayneWolf 7 years ago. Pretty good concepts, I'll have to try them out. I suspect there is a Yoda quote about trying That being said, my anger phase has begun.
RPAlternate42 7 years ago. He loves us. He really loves us. trpSenator 7 years ago. I started getting a new message every day and a phenomenal response rate. Beautiful post. Saved for later use, if you don't mind. Not at all. Hope it helped. Welcome to the Brotherhood. ChadThundercockII 7 years ago.
A brotherhood of pussy assassins. We are the cocks of fate. Wanted reference. Know what's interesting? So I typed "how about a lap dance ; " for him, and she never responded. donit 7 years ago. Her answer would be dude, how the hell should I know? scrubzor 7 years ago. There are a few possible reasons for this: Firstly, if a girl is not attracted to a guy physically, then this type of game won't take you very far at all. The thing about the OPs tactic, is that it's very polarizing Absolutely true.
I don't walk the middle of the road. They either love me or hate me right away. greycloud24 7 years ago. What about an alpha in an Asian country? Is there still an appeal. juanqunt 7 years ago. Tell me more.
I'm assuming you're talking about Tinder. ColdEiric 7 years ago. I want to hear more of your way through the phases. Please, don't leave your walk through unwritten. Is it similar to mine? babayega 7 years ago. Sporadic denial, so I gotta up the pill dose :. Share yours in a post so we can support you in the phases. I shouldn't have to tell you to read the sidebar and the good links.
Start exercising. Stop playing video games. Only get drunk with men you trust to have your back in a brawl. Nothing is as valuable or rare as a loyal friend is. blandboringusername 7 years ago. I have a friend who sends me pictures of his dick to me daily Well that escalated quickly.
Recipe for macho: -Drop old nerdy friends -Be alone -Get a hot friend to exchange dick pics Oh boy. LMAO he had me up until that point!. you fucking cocksucker!!!
Give them too much and they get bored with it, but keep it bouncing around and just enough attention to spike their interest and they can't help but pounce.
I've often compared women to cats. If I'm petting a cat I always stop when they're enjoying it and then wait for them to ask for more.
Getting a cat that doesn't know you to come sit on your lap requires patience. If you try to pick it up too soon it will run away and it will actually take quite a bit longer. Instead of pursuing a cat, I show interest and lure it in with something.
And never touch the belly of a cat you don't know that well. They can turn on you in an instant and fuck your hand up. My cat rolls on its belly when it wants to play fight. She is usually purring while she does it. I'm pretty sure you are misenterpreting the cat's behavior. I've literally known hundreds of cats and witnessed around a dozen liters of kittens. I'm also an expert animal behaviorist and dog trainer.
Some cats not all, will bite and scratch enough to make you bleed, without warning after you've been playing gently with them for awhile. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I'm halfway in between the two of you on the cat expertise scale with 10 being the highest and 0 being the lowest I'm a solid 5. Communication with women is purely covert in the first place. A lack of punctuation gives of the intention of under-investment to the point where your texts are short and brief.
She's not the highest on your priority list. That's what women want. Accurate grammar is an overt i. male construct of communication. The key is to communicate on their level. Edit: I'd also say that it makes negligible difference to your chances, in terms of quantity, but increases your chances in terms of quality.
A lot of well educated women are put off by atrocious spelling and grammar. Upping your game in terms of perceived education, care and professionalism, and not sounding like a dead-beat degenerate, will target a greater number of quality females. OP described his outline as a superficial numbers game for sex. That means her quality must meet the simple threshold of looking sexy and clean enough for the guy's standards. The rest of her could be anything. If you either aren't merely looking for a bunch of sex or if other characteristics of a woman are more important to how you rate her overall quality in regard to sex, then you should tinker with or disregard his outline.
For example, if your goal is to acquire plates, then this guide won't necessarily give you the best approach. Using decent grammar will decrease your number of hits but hopefully increase the average quality and thereby increase your likelihood of connecting with a plateable woman. I thought this same thing, if a women texts like an 8th grader, spelling okay with "k" and using no punctuation and poor grammer, I assume she is either uninterested in me, unrespectful or undereducated.
Any of these reasons is enough for me to next her. Therefore if I texted an woman like this and she goes for i, I would have to assume she has no respect for herself and there is something wrong with her. I use punctuations since ever, it comes pretty much automaticly without thinking Not that easy to stop if you ask me but I get the point. Action words are where it's at. I forget where I saw it, but there's science that talking like that actually works wonders, but it has to be used at the right times.
For example The message i sent to my current plate to arrange a date, two days after the first time we fucked:. No "hey" in the message, no smilies, no punctuation marks. Plus the fact that she was hamstering for the whole day on why does she needs a jacket in the middle of July.
This proves why women leading societies always collapse in the end. We are regressing to accommodate women's preferences. I'd edit this to say beta men would bark like dogs. Alphas would meow and get laid regardless. You wrote a huge guide on how to appeal and cater to females and get them attracted. That's the barking part.
Betas meow and dont get laid. If simply doingwhat you wanted worked, this post and subreddit wouldnt exist. We do what women respond to because they're driven by nature. OP is not preaching to do what women want but instead to appeal to the irresistible subconscious instinct that drive woman's decisions. Women want to be seduced. Successfully seducing a woman is giving her what she wants.
Being alpha is giving her what she wants. There's no hamstering that can be done to escape that. I realize that is the reality of the situation, but I'm not sure If I go to that level if I will be degrading and eroding all self respect. It's a slippery slope. I think it has to do with the ghetto culture here in the USA. It's cool to be ghetto. Ghetto rap took a while to penetrate the American fabric and now it's there like a black virus.
I wouldn't go as far as to blame urban culture for poor grammatical practice. I'd say it's the birth of the digital age that caused the shift of importance. The digital age and online globalization brought about an increase in speed in all things and a lack of patience as a result. In turn, certain things were deemed unimportant within the greater scheme.
The information was deemed more important than the grammar used to convey it so long as the core message was unaltered. A while back I lost my phone downtown. I was still logged in to a bunch of my accounts like tinder.
A day or so later I log in from another device and notice that the guy that found my phone was messaging some girls on there better than me. I particularly remember some stalled out conversation where I was using normal words. He messaged her "Wyd" and he replied a lot. Then something like "hbu" and she replied a ton. Whereas when I was doing it normally it was like pulling teeth. Eventually tracked down the phone to the shit part of town.
Went in and demanded to search a couple of houses. That was dumb in retrospect. Never found it. Well I decided to implement the guide in Argentina, where we have no ghetto, and I am getting numbers left and right, so many that now I don't know what the fuck am I going to do with 15 numbers and three days next week. If a girl gives you shit about your grammar it has nothing to do with your grammar.
Its a shit test. She doesn't give 2 shits about grammar. I have impeccable grammar when necessary, which is not with some bitch I hardly care about. Perfect grammar signals overinvestment pretty consistently. If a girl wants to think either means I'm overinvested, I don't particularly care; I will just get a new less retarded one. Tbh, I commend people for writing such long and "well thought" guides, but it's becoming borderline ridicule It's such a natural thing that I really have a hard time understanding how some people need to go tu such EXTREME lengths just to get a date on a website?
How desperate do you need to be? So it this. I have good grammar, but I'm not catering my grammar towards her. To do so would be an over-investment on my part. She's not getting wet over my proper usage of you're and your. She's getting wet over my Adonis belt. She won't give you shit for it, she'll think you're stupid and move on.
If a girl txtd me lik dis I would tink she 14 yo. I'm a 23 year old man, and I communicate like one. If a girls standards and self respect are low enough that she'll shrug off "k" and keep talking there must be something wrong with her. I get keeping the texts short, framing and using action words. But the difference between "k" and "okay" is the difference between a child and an adult, and I'm no pedophile.
Grammar, like proper ending punctuation, proper capitalization, watching out for run on sentences, proper use of commas, etc.
is spergy to anyone under the age of 30 in texting and IM contexts. The difference between k and okay is not the difference between a child and an adult, you just tell yourself that to feel superior. Well then maybe I am superior. I havnt seen "k" in a text since high school or when a girl is pissed off. Using good grammar is my way of polarizing. If it works for you then fine, but I'm telling you in my world the quality of girls that level of grammar would land me are far below my standards.
It takes no time to type "okay" it is already a 1 word answer. People only type "k" when they are trying to make a point, it either comes off as stupid, rude, or trying too hard not to care. If any girl accepts this she is desperate and there must be a reason for it. K, good point. You kind of got me thinking differently.
When I first read the op's use of "k" I got what he was doing but thought he was being way too obvious. The girl would instantly tell he was being short for the sake of being short, and therefore perceive him as overly invested in her since he is using a "strategy", the strategy of trying not to try or careingis too much about not careing.
And that's on top of coming off as rude or undereducated. But you're implying she will know what you are doing, know you are "making a point" and still play along? most tactics we employ don't need her to be unaware they are going on -- a lot of them she knows what you're doing but she has no choice or her hamster overrides her logic.
I just dropped a K on a girl the other day when she was too short with me and she knew the "k" was a message and immediately tried to "fix things" with me by explaining herself e. qualifying herself to me. k is one of those blatant power moves that works because there is literally nothing to do but 1 respond, giving over the power regardless of what is said, or 2 not respond. It makes it obvious who is more willing to walk away. Based on your comment and the OP'S I am officially gonna give it a try.
I Didn't read it as that type of strategy at first and now it's at least logical. In fact it actually supports something I told another redditor today about a ltr relationship strategy that will work even if she knows what ur doing.
So I have to say thanks for clearing that up, it really makes sense the more I think about it. Originally I was flawed by thinking about it from my perspective, a man's perspective. If a girl I don't know ever uses k with me, she's nexted. I have too much self respect to waste time on shit like that. Either she doesn't care, she's boring, she's too lazy to type "okay", she's ratchet, or she's shit testing me, whatever it is I'm not interested.
But I forgot that girls will completely deprave themselves for an alpha. And if she plays along after you send "k", yeah she may have low standards for herself but she may also not and you are actually just giving her the tingles. Warning: never use the super like feature that just rolled out. It paints your profile beta blue and let's the girl you super liked know you are eager.
Counter intuitive to abundance mentality and just seems like a new feature to weed out the betas. The best part is it colours your profile blue. Does an RPer work at tinder? This chick's pics are way hotter than the usual ones that message back. I'll probably fuck it up at some point, but hey - one step at a time. Thanks for the guide, bro. I'm slaying it at online dating and I really have to disagree with most of your advice.
Responding with "K" or repeating "What's your number" is going to turn a lot of girls off, at this point you're just a random person on the internet and have little sway with them.
Ok, so rule number one is don't talk about sex. There are a bunch of creeps on these sites and women are mostly sick of them. You have NOTHING to gain by talking about sex before you meet the woman.
b Use her response to start a conversation, blablabla that's so interesting then ask another question. c Get her off the dating site. Ask for her number, or ask if she uses whatsapp or viber or whatever. Now you will not be a dating site guy but a 'new friend' to her. B and D should not be too long, about responses from her is good enough for each. It depends on the situation. If she is really talkative you can go right for the date.
If she is a little colder you need to get her talking more. When you ask for a date, it shouldn't even be a doubt in your mind she will say yes - when the woman is talking to you freely and is asking you questions also, they want to meet you. Also I should note - I never get flakes.
And I get laid so much on the first date it's ridiculous. A big reason for this is I'm priming them before the date, I'm not bullying them into a meeting where they aren't comfortable. If you've been really cold and talking about sex or they haven't talked to you beyond giving you their number, the meeting is going to be like meeting a random person on the street.
It's going to take more work at the date to get comfortable. As a former salesman, I'd just add it's not just getting a 'yes' that is important, it's getting them to think 'YES! I don't doubt that this worked for you but I've had more success focusing on hinting at sex. You don't want to be overt about it, no "u want sum fuk?
Something like "We're easily the hottest people on this site, I'm pretty sure it's our duty to create the next generation of models". The chicks that want to bone on the first date want guys that are sexual and fun. I agree with the rest of your tips, but avoiding the sexual talk hasn't really worked for me in the past. yea sometimes I'll fit that type of talk in, especially if I have doubts about her purpose e. vague profile, single photo, might want to gauge her reaction.
But from what I've seen of the competition girls have shown me messages , there is a temptation to search for spank bank material rather than to actually have sex. guys trying to start sex chat. That's what should be avoided. and my approach doesn't work for everyone, I've been accused of seeming cold to girls because I didn't use pet names and talk a lot about their bodies when we first met.
I guess I've got more of a quick strike mentality, where the goal is to get them to my house and make things sexual there. I must disagree with this response. The over-investment implied will serve as nothing more than a self-deprecation.
I'd argue that this is beginning in an implied over-investment. You don't know this woman and immediately you're asking her details about herself. You're also limiting your range across the board. You'd have to actually read the bios of every girl you're interested in, pick out something unique about each one, then cater a question to her. That's time consuming. It also significantly increases your actual investment in the entire process. Use her response to start a conversation, blablabla that's so interesting then ask another question.
Again, asking personal or detailed questions to a women you've never met conveys an over-investment. I've had fat chicks ask me about details on my bio and I've been immediately pu off, so I know other LSSWs think the same thing if we do it.
Their comfort shouldn't matter to you. Your convenience should. If they can't meet at a time or place convenient to you, move on. If you cater to each and every LSSW that responds, that may be. But that's an over-investment on your part. You're adapting your schedule and time to better suit theirs, which is a weakness in frame.
Or you can skip the date altogether and invite them to your place. This statement feels like it stems from a fear of confrontation; you're afraid of offending her, so you tell her what she likes to hear in order to get in her pants.
The sex means too much to you. Again, if your SMV is in check, she'll be comfortable in a dive bar amongst thieves and harlots.
Her comfort isn't something you should have to work at to establish. Different strokes, I guess. I tried the tough guy approach and found it significantly limited my pool. As for overinvestment, it doesn't really take a lot of time to do what I said. The next girl I'm meeting? I told her her hat was awesome, and asked her where she bought it. To me it's not an overinvestment, it's an excuse to initiate a conversation.
If the girl is attracted to you, she'll appreciate it for what it is no matter how stupid or inane and engage. I suppose this also depends on your preference - I like meeting new people, and talking to them, so for me it isn't an investment at all.
If I can have an interesting conversation with someone, that fits my approach and is enjoyable for me. Her comfort does matter to me insofar as she feels comfortable enough to decide to meet me and eventually have sex. And personally I'm not comfortable inviting a stranger to my house, I'd much rather meet them for coffee and have at least a short date to make everything feel less 'arranged.
And it isn't all a manipulation on my part - I genuinely enjoy talking to new people, I'm good at it, so I'm playing to my strengths. I think any sort of one-size-fits-all, acronym-laden approach is going to not suit a lot of people.
It's like you said, mate, different strokes. What works for you will work for you, and it's great. But I do think you have a lot of wrong ideas and approaches in your main post. And I don't think these approaches you praech is good for self-image. It's not tough guy approach as you put it, it's simply an approach that caters your own instead of theirs.
It's a real pain reading bios and trying to "come up" with shit. And your self-image is the most imporant thing. Just because you say that you feel great about it, doesn't mean you actually mean it. You will still subconsciously know that you're of low SMV, because you'll feel the over-investment everytime you sit aorund trying to get their attention. You also said it yourself, that you aren't comfortable inviting a stranger to your house.
OP commented that you have a fear of offending her, which means that you don't think you're good enough to offend her. Maybe it's related to your self-image. From my experience, girls get a lot more comfortable with you, real quick, when you bring her up to your place as soon as you meet her not necessarily to do anything sexual, just say you wanna pick up your sunglasses.
IMO, the worst place to have a first date, is somewhere like a café. It's unnatural to sit with a table between you. Even if there's not a table between you, it's still unnatural to sit either towards each other who the fuck wanna do that or both facing straight not looking at each other at least as fucked up as the other option.
OP had a great advice, just skip the "date" and invite them to your place. blackdragon agrees with OmLaLa - he recommends you don't even read the profile - too much investment, so I'm with OmLaLa with this.
And why? It's a numbers game - imagine read a long rambling talk, messaging and of course she doesn't even bother replying to you to your crafted message no point in reading it in the first place. Sorry but you have a lot to gain when you talk about sex before you meet them. A lot. Don't make it THE topic of discussion the first time you introduce yourself online but make it flirty and gradually get more sexual when you get the number.
By the time you end up meeting them in person you'll be pretty much guaranteed action because they understand the mindset you have for them.
As cheesy as this sounds this requires texting game and risk is a must. I agree about minimalist profiles. Going in depth about yourself shows over-investment and opens the door to saying something she doesn't like.
It also looks like you're trying to impress. Women like mystery, then they can fill in the blanks on their own and imagination is often more interesting than reality. On okcupid if you fill out every section and answer a certain number of questions then your profile will become more visible. This can be achieved with short one word or one sentence answers.
I usually don't say I'm looking for friends either. I imagine some women might take that quite literally. I usually say "a nice girl" which is both true and vague enough to not really mean anything. Now, I screen pretty strongly for sex; I think that accounts for my numbers being a bit lopsided as the interaction moves forward. My initial success is a bit tougher, but it pays off later on. I went on Tinder briefly. My profile pics were reasonable but no shirt off I'm not jacked yet and didn't have any pics with women that I felt OK about posting only ex gf etc.
After this it went downhill got almost no meets and no lays. Granted, I don't meet up with 27 women every week, but going off of those that either agree or ask to meet, that's usually where it stands. the most distressing thing a man notices in his pursuit and evolution of online dating from 1st profile and message to maximizing his success rate is the painful realization of WHAT WORKS and what doesn't and how that reflects on women in society.
I'll put some pictures up of me, they don't HAVE to be the best ones because women care about personality right? I'll message women I believe are in my league not fat with a well thought out highly intellectual message explaining to them why I am interested in them, what I liked about their profile, and why we should get a drink sometime. End Strategy: Maximize your physical attraction in your pictures AS MUCH AS possible. Go as far as to use photoshop to hide blemishes. Covertly put shirtless pictures up in natural settings to show off your body.
Forget highly intellectual message - be short, direct and brief. NEVER tell her that you find her attractive or pretty. A man goes from presenting himself as the best person possible to presenting himself as the most attractive product on the shelf.
Women base their shopping off the label all the time with no appreciation for what's inside. It's why we've seen such a boom in Marketing during the last generation.
Not if, but when she ask you about the past girl you where TALKING TO just tell her that the lady girl was boring. She will get very insecure and try harder. Happened to me last night. I got asked almost immediately how many girls I've met so far. Told her I don't keep track but they were pretty boring. An hour later she was in my bed moaning. Another tip: tell her something brutally honest you don't like about girls, bbbuuutttt make sure she doesn't have it. I tell girls im very particular about nipples.
I hate big nipples, they will send nudes very soon after. How many girls will actually respond to "K"? This is a good guide overall, I just feel like many won't bother responding to a one word answer like that, especially when they presumably are getting hundreds of other messages.
When your SMV is a margin above hers, and you're making it clear you know that, why wouldn't she respond? Yours will be different even if it's a single letter. Yet I'm pretty sure the majority are "hey" to start. It's even in their profile.
If the responds it's a sure date. If she doesn't next her. I like to give those responses at one point to weed out the flakes. I've followed your previous post's advice with great results so this is not a critique but more of clarifying questions. To me it seems like you're placating to the times she is available.
Same goes for "whenever" when being ask to meet up. To me this seems like it goes against the whole men are in control and women want to be led idea. Wouldn't it be more manly to dictate time and place? Responding with something like "X time at X location. This seems to be against the consensus in most RP materials. Outright saying your wants is successful, or at least has been for me. I guess I'm just interested in a discussion of how and why this has been successful for you since it does not seem to be the norm.
I think the main point here is being different, and in this day and age, being different means showing you don't really give a shit. As for 3, one point of distinction is texting before she considers us a real person versus when she has met us and knows we exist.
The vagueness and flakiness is perhaps better for the former in order to spin the hamster wheel and force her to think about us as real people and wonder what we're thinking about. I'm just interested in a discussion of how and why this has been successful for you since it does not seem to be the norm. I read the original LSSW series that OP wrote and I was struck by how much of the details but not the big picture seemed to contradict things I understand about TRP.
Some of his convos went something like:. him: "what are you looking for? And you? Do you want to hang out and be friends? Saw an RSD video about "let's meet up as friends. Online dating is a great teaching tool for guys who still struggle with putting women on a pedastel. Read those profiles, and you will quickly learn how boring and fucking basic the majority of them are. You realize quickly just how more interesting you are compared to them.
It helps you realize that girls are really looking for an interesting guy so they can join in on the activities. RSD Tyler puts it as 'a man is an island with a strong grounded reality. A woman is a boat with no reality and she goes from island to island experiencing different realities. But she has no reality of her own. That tidbit is actually striking me much harder than any TRP theory short of the misandry bubble. I have a very good amount of success with online dating, getting more dates per week than I can actually go on.
That said, I don't agree with many of these statements, though I do see the logic and reasoning in them. Many of them I also agree with whole-heartedly. Could you give a quick list of points you agree with, point you disagree with? Or a long post, haha, you sound successful in the game. His strongest point was the baking analogy in my opinion. Absolutely great way to state that, best way I've seen it conveyed. Obviously reinforcing a strong frame and value is important as well, but everyone on this site should be familiar with that at this point.
Basically, as he stated you shouldn't answer too soon of course, there are no set rules sometimes you can answer right away. But more importantly you can't wait too long like he said more than a day. When I first started, waiting too long was my biggest mistake. Because there are so many people messaging them, if you don't respond and they aren't seeing your photo pop up inevitably they will just move on to the next guy talking to them.
Only exception to this is if you have their number then you can wait a while to text them. Even still I usually give them a heads up when I know I'm too busy to schedule a date for a couple weeks though. I don't agree with making girls think you flaked. Or being deliberately vague on what you will be doing. Not that those things don't work, I just don't find them necessary.
Getting them to do this shouldn't require many tricks. I actually think the hardest part of online dating isn't the 1st date, it is the 2nd assuming you didn't hook up on 1 and want a 2. The baking principle still applies generally I find that if you need to set the 2nd date within 3 days of the 1st date while the girl is still giddy about you.
This is obviously VERY hard to do if you have a busy or non-static work schedule. The longer you let things sit, the less she will remember about you and the harder it will be to drag her out again, and once you start spending time trying to drag her out you start down the inevitable path of lowering your value. This is also true if you slept together on the first date usually.
I don't agree with deliberately dropping convoys or even having them, even if they are nondescript. Ideally you aren't having more than one conversation before you ask for drinks. I'm trying to get a number set a day to get drinks and let our first convos be on the date itself. If you don't get a number the first time you ask, they will usually carry the conversation forward.
Then after they respond I ask again. I've not had anyone not give it the 2nd time. My advice goes mainly for Tinder, I think most other dating tools now are inferior. The quality of girls on Tinder is much better, and you can get numbers much faster. The others require more effort with less results in other words, there is no point to using anything but Tinder.
You have to feel out the girl, but the best night to go out on dates in my opinion is Friday, no obligations for either generally and if things are going well you can continually progress them forward whereas weekdays are more restrictive. Weekdays are better for girls you aren't completely sure about, have more boring looking pictures, or you think might be more timid. Ask for the number quickly, and do it in the context of getting drinks soon the less you talk about the more exciting it is for both YOU and her on the first date.
That doesn't mean don't screen them what they are doing in their pictures and what they write in their about section are actually useful for this purpose. Also, if girls don't use good punctuation that is a red flag to me that they are stupid.
One thing I do to "bake" at the right rate is to check my phone when I'm at the gym in the morning, and once at night after work. Since I work out at 5am in the morning, that usually also adds some intrigue as to why the hell you are up that early. Also if they ask why I'm only responding at those times I tell them I only use Tinder between sets while I'm working out our while I'm on public transit.
Of course, there are always exceptions you should never be following set rules but doing whatever you feel is right for the situation. None of these things are necessary and really everyone will just find out what things work for them with practice. I'd say your online approach is very similiar to mine and you concerns with my some of my approaches are sound. I believe it comes down to a matter of personality; the way I approach fits my personality and I've tailored this guide to fit the common denominator of RPers.
Small changes for sake of personal accomodation are bound to happen. It's to convey a sense of under-investment regarding your interaction with her. She's not important enough to you to illicit long, grammatically correct messages or immediate responses.
I don't know that it generates intrigue. It definitely generates a sense of "This person is a dumbass," though. Goes for both sexes. I suppose it's different if you're ONLY looking to bang chicks. But if you expect to spend any amount of time bonding with people, I'd much rather do it with people who know the difference between a hammer and a nail. And why do you assume she's basing whether or not you're worth sleeping with solely on your grammical prowess?
Grammatical accuracy is something men harp on about because men communicate through facts and facts require an accurate interpretation, leading towards the frustration involved in misinterpretations caused by poor grammar. Women DO NOT communicate this way. Women communicate through body language and intention.
The minimalistic grammatical approach I'm suggesting translates an intention of under-investment. If a woman says she won't sleep with you because you left out the apostrophe in "what're" or in "don't", it's either shit test or you have deeper issues at play. If its on the basis of some grammatical morality, I'd argue that weighing grammatical perfection over sex doesn't reflect positively on your priorities.
This may be heresy around here, but sex isn't the only goal. Especially if you're titling the article "online dating" and not "online hookups.
Dating implies a relationship. Hookups obviously imply fucking. If you're looking for bitches to fuck, yeah, obviously go for the best looking vapid cunts that will fuck you. If you're looking for a relationship though, well, I guess it's no surprise this subreddit exists if what you're looking for in a relationship is a vapid cunt. According to your notion, "sleeping with" someone should only involve sleep. I haven't ever downvoted someone for disagreeing with me. Quite the opposite; I welcome discussions different than my own.
I downvote comments that are either baseless, unnecessary, overly-biased or fail to add to the conversation at hand. I don't normally quote myself outside of my post, but I feel this is an accurate answer in this case. All I know is that in digital media it's almost always neckbeards that are sticklers for grammar, and I have no idea why you'd want to throw yourself in with that crowd.
Is grammar probably good? But the neckbeards ruined it for everyone. Man this is tight I have been implemeting this the past few days with my tinder matches, and hell its really useful to weed out quickly non interested girls. TRP has shocked me with how little time and energy I can invest in a woman and still get laid.
Your last guide put that at an all-time maximum effeciency. This guide looks like it'll cut my time investment further. Thanks, OmLaLa. Your guides are doing the world a service, on several different levels. You call all those hours of gym and eating "little"? And the rest of the day to make you a more interesting man? Ah, I enjoy the gym and my hobbies. It's the talking to new prospects that's usually a chore. I don't really do "dates" it's f-close after meet up or I don't talk to her again.
Does this work for you? I want to do the same thing but have been having trouble becoming adept at making sure I'm not perceived as trying to "date" them. Then don't date them. Keep it as casual as possible. Meet her someplace free, or a place you were already going, invite her to your place afterwords, get in her pants, and kick her out. If she gets lovey-dovey, tell her you noticed and you're not the boyfriend type. I usually don't even have to say that much. Girls know their place. It's when you start treating them like they're special when they expect to be treated better than other people.
Is this your MO? I'm assuming with your conviction this works well for you consistently. Is this correct? I think there's something about them giving it up so early that just makes them "along for the ride" and they just don't cause any problems and we don't talk about what this is.
Unfortunately, this "don't ask; don't tell" seems like a good way to get involved with women living with a dude. I had three turn out to be married, two were engaged, and I think one of my plates now at least has a boyfriend some bodies taking her out to fancy restaurants and she keeps puting pics on instagram.
I don't have any gripes with fucking taken women, but, I dunno when RP truth is so clear and in your face it's a lot to take in. All the women there have a very good reason that they need to online date. They're fat or ugly or single moms or insane or boring or lazy or sluts or gold diggers or even dangerous. Pick a few traits and add way too high expectations and you have your typical online dating woman.
Most of them are just fat and boring btw, they could easily get a man by losing pounds and going outside.
Tinder is something different as it's Chad's personal booty call app and not really a dating app. Tinder is the only one I bother with anymore. I think the social stigma against online dating is much less with Tinder. I've seen way more attractive girls there. I think it's because they can only receive messages from guys they like and match with instead of weeding through hundreds.
The fact that it's just an app on your phone with little investment as well. As you get older the usefulness of online dating drops precipitously. After 37 the chances of you pulling age group girls are going to be much lower. Just having that number there is enough to make them go eeewww creepy. I have zero problems getting the same age group to show interest in person, but online all I get is wrinkled up hags and fat single mothers.
They don't want to know, they want to assume you're just prematurely gray. Unless I want to fuck a 45 year old single mom with a mustache, online dating is absolutely useless. If you're not looking for relationships and just to hook up, then lower your age so long as you can look the part in person. Gray hair and I'm obviously not 30 anymore. Five years ago I could pull off 30, but no longer at All I do is fuck buddies and short term, I have no use for an LTR.
No bitch will ever hear me tell her I love her or anything close to it. I'm in my early 30s but am constantly told I look mids. I set my online stuff to "30" because a lot of girls under 25 will set 30 as their highest age limit.
Definitely for me. You hit 40 and the 20 somethings look at you as either a creepy old guy or bb. In person, whole different world. While I always love seeing Bonecrcker brought up, I must disagree with you here. That was written before Online dating has changed tremendously.
Normal people use it too now. Tinder happened. Social stigma went. But online dating isn't a non-starter, and it has a lot of uses. This is great. Been looking around for a Tinder post for awhile now that covered almost every aspect. This is perfect.
Thanks man. For shirt less pics, do you have to have chiseled abs? While I have muscle I have some body fat so you can see the abs are there, you just don't see the six pack very well. That and having your forearm musculature clearly showing. It sounds retarded, I know, but it's something more than a handful of women have commented on.
Saving this and will come back to it when i have improved myself enough. Just started lifting and working on myself thanks to this subreddit otherwise I'd still be watching porn and fapping away my chances of getting laid. OmLaLa makes the best guides EVER, very practical writings. I'll get back to using Tinder as I'm working too much and can't to go out 3x a week. Feeling confident with my new knowledge. That is the ideal daygame scenario: becoming a naturally social and flirty person.
But on that note, I think daygame is something everyone should try at least a few times, especially while they're young. If you're out getting dates, you'll have a number of flaked meetups. The way to counter this is to double or even triple-book. Yes, this means you'll have to flake on them. Give about 1 hour intervals on your date meetup times. You can tell within a half hour whether a date is promising. If date 1 is definitely going good and I mean, you're about to make out , then excuse yourself to the bathroom and tell date 2 something came up and you want to reschedule for another time.
If date 1 is neutral, say you have to leave, go on to date 2. Let's say date 2 stands you up, no problem, you still have date 3. If date 3 flakes, that's okay, just call up a pal around the corner and start picking up more women in the vicinity.
Rinse, repeat. If you consistently do this at least a couple times a week, your abundance will build up to a crescendo.
Yes, this might piss off your other dates but that's the reality of the game. Hey shitlords I am going on a tinder date. I have done okc and pof on several occasions. Will report back at some point in the week. Having multiple girls tell me they are looking for hot dirty sex.
Please advise, instructions unclear. Dick stuck in fan. I'm glad to hear it. All I want is for TRP to experience the same amount of successes I have online. I hooked up with girls over summer from Tinder. I agree with everything you said except the opener of "hi".
If you can come up with something clever that'll always be the better than "hi". I tell them, "I'm going to grab lunch at whatever at 1pm. Come with me". I tell them. I never ask them anything. If they can't make it then I don't reply back. I'll try again in a few days. Note: Before you start telling them make sure your SMV is there.
Otherwise, like OP said they won't like it. If your SMV is there then BE A FUCKING LION with these women! Don't be scared of it going south. Abundance mentality my friends. One more thing: after I get the number. I text them "Hey it's Grifter. Save my number. You're going to need it". They love that. It's never failed me. loving how you always revise these dating guides OmLaLa.
Since I'm feeling a bit more confident with my smv now I'm going in.
TL;DR- This is a concise and heavily updated guide on how to approach dating sites. Most of this guide has been altered based upon which strategies worked the most frequently and consistently from beginning to end.
If you've read the previous version, I'd highly recommend you read this one as most of its content has changed. Don't start until you're ready.
A strong frame, attractive figure and abundance mentality are REQUIRED prior to attempting this guide. If you don't have these 3 qualities yet or you feel that they could use improvement, handle that first. A lot of how you'll be judged as an alpha from here on will be based solely on perception and not necessarily the reality of your situation.
Because of this, these qualities need to become second nature and aspects of yourself you don't have to think about. You need to know your frame is strong, know you're attractive and know you could move on if you had to.
All women on dating sites are not innately serious about meeting you in-person. Women use dating sites purely for validation. It is your goal to pull them from this mindset and into your frame. Once this has occurred, the rest becomes easy. Understand you opponent. Always think from the LSSW's Local Sexy Single Woman's perspective: they receive up to 50 messages a day, don't respond to most of them, but something about your profile picture and bios caught her attention.
Find out what that something is and exploit it. Also, if you're noticing a point in the guide where a lot of LSSWs are dropping off, find out why and repair it.
Understand your SMV. The hotter she is the higher her SMV range will be. For example, what I find hot and attainable is completely different compared to Brad Pitt. Understand your competition. Thanks to the globalization of the internet, women can see and judge any guy within a mile radius. She is always weighing her options. Never over-invest, never forget hypergamy. Move on. Learn from your opponent. You will be using their strategy against them. The key to understanding this guide is understanding the importance of fleeting investment and why overinvestment is often the silent killer to most of your attempts.
Be attractive. Again, this is very important. This is a late-game strategy and can ONLY be implemented successfully if your body is in the right place. Insecurity shows. Less is more. Most dating sites will inform you when you have a visitor. She will notice and it will put her off. Approach dating sites like baking. Abundance mentality is a prerequisite to success. Be ready to drop out at any time.
This is very important. Do not engage. Long term this does more harm than good. If she's responding to you at all, she's interested to some degree and the guide still stands. Don't talk on how much you make or flash around your wealth. She'll perceive it as compensation for something else or perceive you as a potential provider, both of which you don't want.
If she messages you first, quickly becomes sexual, gives out her number much faster than expected, begs to visit you with no shit tests or in a short amount of time, be skeptical. Ask for a picture, ask to Skype, whatever it takes to confirm her identity. Turn off those pesky notifications. A watched pot never boils. If you see pending messages from POF, Tinder or OKC every time you check your phone, you're pretty likely to respond too soon. Go into your phone's settings and turn off those pesky notification pop-ups so pending messages can be addressed at your leisure.
Women are aroused by the high SMV man attached to your dick. Dicks are like pens. Everyone's got one, most people'll loan you one if you ask for it and unless it's super unique, nobody cares about it. Know what signs to look for. Text carefully. Read over your texts very carefully before sending them. Without the ability to read your body language to understand you on a covert level, women will attempt to do so through the texts you send.
I would highly recommend this to anyone attempting this guide. Let convos die. Learn from your mistakes. I've dropped the ball countless times and so will you. Figure out what you said, how you said it and why you said whatever you said that lost her interest. Maybe you responded too soon? Maybe you came off as insecure or desperate?
Remember, for this to work her perception of you is what matters. I'll be repeating this a lot. Organization is key. Drop this advice. Avoid single mothers. The entire calling section. This guide will aim to avoid calling altogether. Minnows are a better bait for catching bass than worms. On the same note, shirtless, attractive pictures are a better bait when fishing for purely sexual encounters with women.
The idea here is selective marketing. If you own a restaurant and you want to attract hungry people, do you put a nuclear scientist conducting research as your commercial? No, as that would either attract the wrong demographic or misrepresent the goals and intentions of your restaurant. The same applies for shirtless pictures. The key is to tap into the reptilian side of her mind. Any LSSW that messages or responds to a message to a guy with a good shirtless picture has made it clear that your physique piqued her interest.
Look confident. Relaxed posture, relaxed shoulders, relaxed palms, no head tilt, no deer in headlights stare. Make it a summation not of you or what you are but what you want and what you expect. A profile picture of you riding in a race car? NOTE: I'm not implying that having pictures of you doing interesting things is a bad thing.
Quite the opposite, I'd encourage it. What I am saying is that if sex is what you want from an LSSW, shirtless pictures will make that message clear. Preselection basically boils down to any evidence supporting you as a hot commodity, or in this case, pictures with women genuinely enjoying your company.
All that matters is that by reading their body language in the pictures it was clear that they were having a good time and I was the cause. The women need to seem enthralled just by being in your company. More pictures like this but none like this or this or this. Watch for body language. Juxtapose the vain shirtless selfies with a bio that tells about all the amazing hobbies, interests and accomplishments that represent you. Go as in depth as you can. Be cocky.
Describe your life as the best thing since sliced bread. Why would this attractive, interesting, smart alpha want to spend time with a boring woman like me? And all this will come without you having to lift a finger. NOTE: DO NOT talk about how much money you make, your high-paying corporate job, your nice car, your big house, etc.
Only boast about YOU and things that can only be found within YOU.
Women get flooded with messages from average losers, and he didn't want to be lumped into the sea of morass, the beta bitches who desperately need online dating. Still, Chad is so busy September 15, upvotes. /r/ TheRedPill. TL;DR- This is a concise and heavily updated guide on how to approach dating sites. Most of this guide has been altered based upon which AdFind Your Special Someone Online. Choose the Right Dating Site & Start Now! Reaching for the stars is great, but, sometimes you have to understand when you’re setting your sights too high and keep more of an open mind about who could be right for you. 4. There Can Currently why online dating sucks. Whereas tons of people create profiles on online dating sites, meeting up with potential dates in real life is not an easy task due to fear of the These are 5 main reasons why online dating sucked for me and my personal insights on how to make it suck less. Contents Show. 1. You are not getting any matches. At the beginning, I ... read more
If you can come up with something clever that'll always be the better than "hi". Hrodrik 7 years ago. They want better. So you need to ditch them. I looked him straight in the eye, and said "Good. I want to do the same thing but have been having trouble becoming adept at making sure I'm not perceived as trying to "date" them.I have done okc and pof on several occasions. You have NOTHING to gain by talking about sex before you meet the woman. Step 3:??? Same goes for "whenever" when being ask to meet up. elStoogeDR 7 years ago. hirjd 7 years ago, theredpill online dating sucks. It is harder to become loved, but if you don't become loved, you want to be feared.